Everyday Creative Therapy Podcast
Everyday Creative Therapy — Episode 1: Poetry, Presence and Healing
In the first episode of Everyday Creative Therapy, registered art therapist and creative writer Jenny Huang explores the therapeutic potential of poetry with pastoral leader, psychologist, poet, and narrative therapy practitioner Jonathan Browning. Drawing on Jonathan’s experience supporting people through difficult life stories, the conversation explores how healing can begin when people feel genuinely seen, heard, and able to give words to experiences that have remained buried.
《Everyday Creative Therapy 日常創意療癒》— 第一集：詩、臨在與療癒
在《Everyday Creative Therapy 日常創意療癒》的第一集中，註冊藝術治療師暨圖文創作者 Jenny Huang(我)，與牧者、心理師、詩人及敘事治療工作者 Jonathan Browning 展開對談，探索詩歌所蘊含的療癒潛能。
Jonathan 長期陪伴人們走過生命中的艱難故事。本集從他的實務經驗出發，談論療癒如何可能始於一個人真正感受到自己「被看見、被聽見」，以及當那些長久埋藏在心底、難以言說的經驗，終於能夠找到文字來承載與表達時，會發生什麼。
詩歌不只是文字的創作，也可以成為我們靠近自己、理解生命經驗，並與他人建立連結的一種方式。
The episode centres on two poems by American poet Mary Oliver: I Happened to Be Standing and The Gardener. Through close reading and discussion, Jenny and Jonathan consider how Oliver uses nature, ordinary moments, rhetorical questions, and attentive observation to explore prayer, wonder, self-doubt, love, gratitude, and the meaning of a life well lived. The discussion highlights Oliver’s invitation to slow down, notice what is around us, and remain open to questions without necessarily needing immediate answers.
本集以美國詩人瑪麗・奧利佛（Mary Oliver）的兩首詩作為核心：I Happened to Be Standing（〈我碰巧站在那裡〉）與 The Gardener（〈園丁〉）。
透過細讀與對話，我 與 Jonathan 一同探討奧利佛如何運用自然、日常生活中的片刻、修辭性問句，以及細緻而專注的觀察，來探索祈禱、驚奇、自我懷疑、愛、感恩，以及「如何活出一個值得的生命」等深刻主題。
這場對談也凸顯了奧利佛對讀者的邀請：放慢腳步，留意身邊正在發生的一切，並且允許自己敞開心來面對那些尚未有答案的問題——不一定需要立即找到答案，也可以只是與問題共處。
The conversation then moves from reading poetry to writing it. Jenny and Jonathan consider how poetry can help people access emotions, memories, bodily experiences, and personal stories that may be difficult to express through ordinary conversation. They discuss the way writing can transform everyday experiences into something we can observe, reflect upon, and give meaning to.
Ultimately, the episode invites listeners to experiment with poetry as a simple form of everyday creative practice. Inspired by Oliver’s rhetorical questions, listeners are encouraged to slow down, ask their own meaningful questions, pay attention to ordinary moments, and put their experiences onto paper. Rather than striving for a perfect answer or a perfect poem, the episode suggests that the act of noticing, wondering, and finding words may itself become a pathway towards greater self-awareness, connection, and healing.
接著，對談從「閱讀詩」走向「寫詩」。我 與 Jonathan 探討詩歌如何幫助人們接觸那些難以透過日常對話表達的情緒、記憶、身體經驗，以及個人生命故事。他們談到，書寫如何將我們日常生活中的經驗轉化為一種可以被觀看、被反思，並重新賦予意義的東西。
最終，本集邀請聽眾嘗試把詩歌融入日常，將它視為一種簡單而可親近的創意實踐。受到奧利佛詩中修辭性問句的啟發，我們鼓勵聽眾放慢腳步，問自己一些真正重要的問題，留意那些平凡卻值得注意的生活片刻，並將自己的經驗寫在紙上。
這不在於追求一個完美的答案，也不在於寫出一首完美的詩。或許，單單是「留意、感受、提問，並為經驗找到文字」的過程，本身就能成為一條通往更深自我覺察、更真實連結，以及療癒的道路。
Click the link below to listen to the first episode:
點選下面連結來聆聽第一集:
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